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	<title>Comments on: Freedom to Marry Week</title>
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		<title>By: Reno</title>
		<link>http://lesbianfamily.org/2007/02/12/freedom-to-marry-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1873</link>
		<dc:creator>Reno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 06:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t post an image because of copyright issues, but here&#039;s one of my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=4D3H8WNHLU1F8KPLDSCH0HQXR8BL67M4&amp;sitetype=1&amp;did=4&amp;sid=70350&amp;pid=&amp;keyword=gay+marriage&amp;section=all&amp;title=undefined&amp;whichpage=8&amp;sortBy=popular&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;favorite New Yorker cartoons&lt;/a&gt; ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t post an image because of copyright issues, but here&#8217;s one of my <a href="http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=4D3H8WNHLU1F8KPLDSCH0HQXR8BL67M4&amp;sitetype=1&amp;did=4&amp;sid=70350&amp;pid=&amp;keyword=gay+marriage&amp;section=all&amp;title=undefined&amp;whichpage=8&amp;sortBy=popular" rel="nofollow">favorite New Yorker cartoons</a> ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Liza</title>
		<link>http://lesbianfamily.org/2007/02/12/freedom-to-marry-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1871</link>
		<dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WRT the institution of marriage and the state. 

I think having some sort of legal recognition and protection of families, provided by the state, is generally a good thing. I think providing social security survivor benefits, and making people responsible for their children, are both good things that can be pushed so far that they hit the crazy blogosphereic circle.  I&#039;m totally open to overhauling how the state does recognizes families, and who is eligible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WRT the institution of marriage and the state. </p>
<p>I think having some sort of legal recognition and protection of families, provided by the state, is generally a good thing. I think providing social security survivor benefits, and making people responsible for their children, are both good things that can be pushed so far that they hit the crazy blogosphereic circle.  I&#8217;m totally open to overhauling how the state does recognizes families, and who is eligible.</p>
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		<title>By: Liza</title>
		<link>http://lesbianfamily.org/2007/02/12/freedom-to-marry-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1870</link>
		<dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, well, it wasn&#039;t in writing. But it is something that comes up about every other visit with my parents, and the part with my parents and sister has been familial conversation on a regular basis for at least 15 or 20 years. We also irregularly give each other a dime, for the next ticket.

Now it is in writing, for teh whole Internets to contemplate. But I don&#039;t think that&#039;s what you meant. 

We don&#039;t have a big written contract about the lottery, although we did do that when I loaned Jill some of her share of the downpayment on our old condo (0%, forgiven over however many years of gift tax limits it took). (The house that was mine before we met sold for a lot of money.)  

But that involved the actual transfer of a big chunk of cash, although still one that legally married couples can share without.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, well, it wasn&#8217;t in writing. But it is something that comes up about every other visit with my parents, and the part with my parents and sister has been familial conversation on a regular basis for at least 15 or 20 years. We also irregularly give each other a dime, for the next ticket.</p>
<p>Now it is in writing, for teh whole Internets to contemplate. But I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s what you meant. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have a big written contract about the lottery, although we did do that when I loaned Jill some of her share of the downpayment on our old condo (0%, forgiven over however many years of gift tax limits it took). (The house that was mine before we met sold for a lot of money.)  </p>
<p>But that involved the actual transfer of a big chunk of cash, although still one that legally married couples can share without.</p>
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		<title>By: Trista</title>
		<link>http://lesbianfamily.org/2007/02/12/freedom-to-marry-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1847</link>
		<dc:creator>Trista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I couldn&#039;t figure out how to leave a comment at the SOVO post... so I&#039;ll leave it here.

Since Kristin and I regularly drive to Idaho to buy lottery tickets (no lottery in Utah) and we entertain ourselves on the drive with our lottery fantasies, your post was incredibly interesting to me.

We&#039;ve thought about ways to get around the gift tax for our families.  Don&#039;t know if those things are legally valid, or not, but whatever.  The thing is, I NEVER THOUGHT about the gift tax hitting us as a couple since we buy the ticket out of our joint checking account.  Stupid me!  

So, what I want to know is (so I can resume my lottery fantasies) did you put your agreement of 50% interest in writing?  Or were you joking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I couldn&#8217;t figure out how to leave a comment at the SOVO post&#8230; so I&#8217;ll leave it here.</p>
<p>Since Kristin and I regularly drive to Idaho to buy lottery tickets (no lottery in Utah) and we entertain ourselves on the drive with our lottery fantasies, your post was incredibly interesting to me.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve thought about ways to get around the gift tax for our families.  Don&#8217;t know if those things are legally valid, or not, but whatever.  The thing is, I NEVER THOUGHT about the gift tax hitting us as a couple since we buy the ticket out of our joint checking account.  Stupid me!  </p>
<p>So, what I want to know is (so I can resume my lottery fantasies) did you put your agreement of 50% interest in writing?  Or were you joking?</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzy</title>
		<link>http://lesbianfamily.org/2007/02/12/freedom-to-marry-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah! What she said!</description>
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		<title>By: jen (in md)</title>
		<link>http://lesbianfamily.org/2007/02/12/freedom-to-marry-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1841</link>
		<dc:creator>jen (in md)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if marriage was available to all without discrimination, then would it be ok that &quot;thousands of legal and tax benefits ... are available only through the institution of marriage&quot;? personally, i don&#039;t think so. why should the state be involved in people&#039;s spiritual and romantic lives?

you know that i feel strongly that if those benefits are made available to married people, they should be available without regard to the gender of the couple. but the optimal result in my mind would be to keep the government out of the business of encouraging marriage, period. civil partnerships for all, legally sanctioned marriages for none.

i WISH gay marriage were a threat to the institution of marriage, because it deserves to be questioned. but on the contrary, i think the movement for gay marriage only reinforces the institution of marriage by seeking to expand, rather than overhaul, an outdated and unfair legal doctrine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if marriage was available to all without discrimination, then would it be ok that &#8220;thousands of legal and tax benefits &#8230; are available only through the institution of marriage&#8221;? personally, i don&#8217;t think so. why should the state be involved in people&#8217;s spiritual and romantic lives?</p>
<p>you know that i feel strongly that if those benefits are made available to married people, they should be available without regard to the gender of the couple. but the optimal result in my mind would be to keep the government out of the business of encouraging marriage, period. civil partnerships for all, legally sanctioned marriages for none.</p>
<p>i WISH gay marriage were a threat to the institution of marriage, because it deserves to be questioned. but on the contrary, i think the movement for gay marriage only reinforces the institution of marriage by seeking to expand, rather than overhaul, an outdated and unfair legal doctrine.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzy</title>
		<link>http://lesbianfamily.org/2007/02/12/freedom-to-marry-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, The Mistah was just telling me about this movement to ensure all married hetero couples breed within three years of marriage. 

Since making and raising children is really the fundamental reasoning for marriage, right?

On a more serious note, I think it&#039;s interesting for us--as a hetero couple--to take the time this Valentine&#039;s Day to remember why we did get married, and why marriage is something we should ALL enjoy, should we choose to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, The Mistah was just telling me about this movement to ensure all married hetero couples breed within three years of marriage. </p>
<p>Since making and raising children is really the fundamental reasoning for marriage, right?</p>
<p>On a more serious note, I think it&#8217;s interesting for us&#8211;as a hetero couple&#8211;to take the time this Valentine&#8217;s Day to remember why we did get married, and why marriage is something we should ALL enjoy, should we choose to.</p>
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